作者 alerzart (Alerzart) 站内 asciiart
标题 Re: [ANSI] 花
时间 Sun May 2 13:04:23 2010
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※ 引述《whatzzz (三★连★星)》之铭言∶
: 不会画Ansi,只是对于临摹有点感想ww
: Ansi的图,如果有原图,制作方法多半是垫在下面画(没理解错误的话)
: 以书法来说这叫摹,就算摹的再怎么好再怎么像,还是描的,
: 而放一旁看著画看著写,这叫临
: 或许临摹已经成为Ansi制作很重要的方法之一,但是只要是有来源的,
: 我觉得都没什么好拿来说嘴的
: 就算我加上了自己的小修,还是用描的
: 就算是说不是每个人都能描的很漂亮...那还是描的
: 就算是转完图再花一个礼拜的时间做细致的处理...那还是描的
: 临也是,只是相对是难了点
我谈一些个人感想好了
其实ANSI说是画也可以说不是画 因为本质上还是由"文字"组成的"文章"
只是看起来像是图片/画而已 这是我所认知的ANSI
因此其实这种表现的重点 与其说是"重现原图"的程度
倒不如说看得是"在只有文字符号可以使用的限制下 能够到什么样的极限"
同样都是文字 有人可以拼到跟原图的神韵 但有人办不到
要如何组成 挑选什么样的符号 使用什么样的方式
这些全都得依靠作者本人的智慧
并不是只作"描图"而已 只是要描图的话 根本没有浪费时间去思考或尝试的必要吧?
: 但是Ansi这东西,只能存在于这个环境,大家看得开心就好
: 而且以符号跟色块组成有时候还满能表现创意的,看推娃版就知道XD
: 是这样的,要是今天有个人拿某游戏的CG来垫著用PS描画一次,
: 然后贴在Pixiv被发现了
: 一 定 被 干 翻
: 但是要是成了Ansi,而且是描的越像的Ansi,大家一定会越说画得漂亮ww
: 因为在这个BBS环境里的关系,就好像用羊或用咖啡排出蒙娜丽莎的微笑一样
: 大家不会说他抄袭啥的,只会说好酷好赞
: 所以其实也不用太计较到底是以什么方法转出来,或是自己画出来的
: 大家看得开心发挥了图的功用我觉得就够了
但是ANSI毕竟不是cg啊^^b
转图之所以会受到普遍的抨击 是因为这样的方式"看不到作者的用心"
毕竟创作ANSI的过程中非常需要作者本人的巧思与创造力
当然以结果来说可能的确没什么不同 毕竟常见的情况就是"脱下眼镜看起来都一样"
但是转图可能只需要几秒钟 手制图要数小时不等的时间
两种类型如果还被拿来相提并论 这当然会产生普遍的不满
如果每个人都这样认为的话 那以后恐怕就不会有人想再继续思考与创作了
"反正也没什么不同?"
我并没有责怪您的意思 但我想这两种情况还是有差别的
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Author alerzart Alerzart site asciiart
Title Re: [ANSI] flower
Time Sun May 2 13:04:23 2010
Quotes from whatzzz Three Stars
: I can’t draw Ansi. I just have some thoughts on copying.ww
: Ansi's picture. If you have the original picture, the production method is mostly to draw on the bottom. If I understand correctly
: In terms of calligraphy, this is called imitation. No matter how good the imitation is and how similar it is, it is still a tracing.
: Putting it aside and looking at the painting and writing is called pronunciation.
: Perhaps copying has become one of the most important methods of Ansi production, but as long as there is a source
: I don’t think there’s anything to talk about.
: Even if I added my own minor modifications, I still used tracing.
: Even if it is said that not everyone can draw beautifully...it is still possible to draw
: Even if I transfer the image and spend a week doing detailed processing...it will still be traceable.
: Lin is the same, but it is relatively difficult.
Let me share some personal feelings.
In fact, ANSI can say that it is a painting or not a painting, because it is essentially an "article" composed of "text".
It just looks like a picture, a painting. This is the ANSI I know.
Therefore, in fact, the focus of this kind of performance is not so much the degree of "reproducing the original image"
Rather, it's about "what kind of limits can be reached under the restriction that only text symbols can be used."
They are all words. Some people can spell it out to match the charm of the original picture, but some people can't.
How to compose it, what kind of symbols to choose, what kind of method to use
All this depends on the author’s own wisdom
It's not just "tracing". If you just want to trace, there's no need to waste time thinking or trying, right?
: But Ansi can only exist in this environment. Everyone can enjoy watching it.
: Moreover, the combination of symbols and color blocks can sometimes express creativity. Just watch the Tuiwa version to know XD
: It’s like this. If someone takes the CG of a certain game and draws it with PS today,
: Then the post was discovered on Pixiv
: Must be fucked over
: But if it becomes Ansi and the more Ansi the drawing is like, everyone will definitely say that the drawing is more beautifulww
: Because the relationship in this BBS environment is like using sheep or coffee to express Mona Lisa’s smile.
: People won’t say he plagiarized or anything, they will only say it’s cool and great.
: So actually, you don’t have to worry too much about how you transferred it or drew it yourself.
: I think it’s enough that everyone is happy to see it and the function of the picture is fully utilized.
But ANSI is not cg after all^^b
The reason why reposting pictures is generally criticized is because this method "cannot see the author's intention"
After all, the process of creating ANSI requires the author's own ingenuity and creativity.
Of course, there may be no difference in terms of results. After all, a common situation is that "they all look the same if they take off their glasses."
But converting a picture may only take a few seconds, while hand-drawing may take hours.
If the two types are still compared, this will of course generate widespread dissatisfaction.
If everyone thinks so, then probably no one will want to continue thinking and creating in the future.
"It doesn't make any difference anyway?"
I don't mean to blame you, but I think there is a difference between the two situations.
nefit elmei kamyu yulis, Uhw ele delis Eeo.
So Se Riele Is Ye sophia.
Armaris Sophie Nett
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