发信人: Castellio (percyshelley|Right to Heresy), 信区: ANSI
标 题: [合集][转载][裁决] DixReves vs FFXeNoN
发信站: 日月光华 (2012年03月07日14:20:15 星期三), 站内信件
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daviddvd (0519|HiHigh团@泉| daviddvd.net) 于 2011年12月27日23:18:18 星期二 提到:
申 请 人: DixReves
被申请人: FFXeNoN
诉 由:
网友DixReves认为,站长FFXeNoN认定其签名档违规及相关处理不妥。
诉 求:
撤销或减轻处罚。
相关证据:
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1. DixReves的复议申请书;
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2. Complaint版相关文章;
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3. 其它讨论区中DixReves所发表的包含该签名档的文章;
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4. 仲裁组取证信件(不予列出)。
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以上证据均陈列于:Appeal版精华区x-10-7-60
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仲裁依据:
复旦大学日月光华电子公告牌执行办法:条目4.7
6.27
仲裁组讨论:
仲裁组经过调阅相关发文、信件等证据后讨论认为:网友DixReves在被举
报的帖子和其他的一些发文中所使用的签名档,确实存在遮挡引言部分的情况
并且影响了其他网友正常的阅读。站长FFXeNoN 要求其修改签名档后,在知晓
处理决定的情况下未能及时修改, FFXeNoN因此对其封禁登陆权限处罚合理,
并无不当之处。
网友DixReves对该签名档的使用,本身并无恶意,用于签名档的ANSI作品
也具有特殊意义。对于此类情况的签名档,仲裁组建议站务委员会提供申请使
用的可能,并给出相应的使用范围和具体规则,让网友能够最大程度地保留这
些珍贵的原创。
裁决:
驳回DixReves的所有诉求。
本裁决为终审裁决,自公布之日起生效。
日月光华BBS仲裁组
执行仲裁:wf
moonbear
Sato
2011.12.26
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daviddvd (0519|HiHigh团@泉| daviddvd.net) 于 2011年12月27日23:18:25 星期二 提到:
sosad.
: 申 请 人: DixReves
: 被申请人: FFXeNoN
: 诉 由:
: 网友DixReves认为,站长FFXeNoN认定其签名档违规及相关处理不妥。
: 诉 求:
: .................(以下省略)
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qianzj (鼠标|虎踞龙蟠) 于 2011年12月27日23:30:39 星期二 提到:
期待 给出相应的使用范围和具体规则
: 申 请 人: DixReves
: 被申请人: FFXeNoN
: 诉 由:
: 网友DixReves认为,站长FFXeNoN认定其签名档违规及相关处理不妥。
: 诉 求:
: .................(以下省略)
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soulfox (08EE|08304|08CSEY|04CSE|囧) 于 2011年12月27日23:58:18 星期二 提到:
pity...
这什么意思啊:
对于此类情况的签名档,仲裁组建议站务委员会提供申请使用的可能,
并给出相应的使用范围和具体规则,让网友能够最大程度地保留这些
珍贵的原创。
: 申 请 人: DixReves
: 被申请人: FFXeNoN
: 诉 由:
: 网友DixReves认为,站长FFXeNoN认定其签名档违规及相关处理不妥。
: 诉 求:
: .................(以下省略)
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yahou (爱已无言@心一@六周年) 于 2011年12月28日10:51:32 星期三 提到:
没啥意思,典型官方语言
: pity...
: 这什么意思啊:
: 对于此类情况的签名档,仲裁组建议站务委员会提供申请使用的可能,
: 并给出相应的使用范围和具体规则,让网友能够最大程度地保留这些
: 珍贵的原创。
: .................(以下省略)
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Castellio (percyshelley|Right to Heresy) 于 2011年12月28日13:26:11 星期三 提到:
。。。于是特殊签名档从此绝迹了吗
: 申 请 人: DixReves
: 被申请人: FFXeNoN
: 诉 由:
: 网友DixReves认为,站长FFXeNoN认定其签名档违规及相关处理不妥。
: 诉 求:
: .................(以下省略)
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CandyR (DixReves說想到一個證明Fermat理的好辦法!) 于 2011年12月28日14:35:01 星期三 提到:
被貼出來了鬧
: 申 请 人: DixReves
: 被申请人: FFXeNoN
: 诉 由:
: 网友DixReves认为,站长FFXeNoN认定其签名档违规及相关处理不妥。
: 诉 求:
: .................(以下省略)
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daviddvd (0519|HiHigh团@泉| daviddvd.net) 于 2011年12月28日15:16:00 星期三 提到:
捏捏
: 被貼出來了鬧
: : 申 请 人: DixReves
: : 被申请人: FFXeNoN
: : 诉 由:
: .................(以下省略)
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linzhihuan (221|0513|0534) 于 2011年12月29日10:53:14 星期四 提到:
私以为24小时内必须上站闻所未闻
: 申 请 人: DixReves
: 被申请人: FFXeNoN
: 诉 由:
: 网友DixReves认为,站长FFXeNoN认定其签名档违规及相关处理不妥。
: 诉 求:
: .................(以下省略)
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CandyR (DixReves說想到一個證明Fermat理的好辦法!) 于 2011年12月30日20:23:03 星期五 提到:
滿地打滾
: 捏捏
: : 被貼出來了鬧
: : .................(以下省略)
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CandyR (DixReves說想到一個證明Fermat理的好辦法!) 于 2011年12月30日21:10:25 星期五 提到:
算啦~
我想搞個QMD這麼說:
我有一個很漂亮的QMD, 可惜這裡只有6行, 寫不下了...
哈哈
: 私以为24小时内必须上站闻所未闻
: : 申 请 人: DixReves
: : 被申请人: FFXeNoN
: : 诉 由:
: .................(以下省略)
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Castellio (percyshelley|Right to Heresy) 于 2011年12月30日21:41:26 星期五 提到:
真是管的太宽了 其实想想 现在还有多少人会用特殊签名档的
这种禁令毫无用处
: 私以为24小时内必须上站闻所未闻
: : 申 请 人: DixReves
: : 被申请人: FFXeNoN
: : 诉 由:
: .................(以下省略)
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soulfox (08EE|08304|08CSEY|04CSE|囧) 于 2011年12月30日21:58:43 星期五 提到:
我是觉得用光标定位的肯定会挡到字。。。。
于是都可以说影响了他人的阅读啊,
于是光标定位也不就都应该被禁止么?
另外什么叫影响了他人的阅读呢。。
包括这次DixReves被举报的那个帖子,和所有其他使用光标qmd的,都没有,也
肯定不会让其qmd挡到自己写的字,而是挡到引文的一部分。。
如果说这个遮挡是影响了他人正常阅读帖子,ok,影响了其读那引文被遮挡的一
两个字。。
那么我想说,
所有回复帖子选择N引言模式的,影响了我正常的阅读,都应该被封禁。
所有回复帖子选择R引言模式的,把引文截断了,影响了我的阅读,也应该被封禁。
所有回复帖子选择Y引言模式的,只保留了2层引言,前面的都不显示,影响了我的阅读,
也应该被封禁。
另外我想说,今天我是qmd定位挡到了原文中的引言的几个字符。。
明天,我不使用定位的qmd,而我就在回复的帖子里面画个ANSI图样,然后删除
了几个引文中的字符,这算不算是影响了他人的阅读啊?是不是应该封禁啊。。:)
后天,我不使用定位的qmd,也不画ANSI,而是就直接删除引文中的几个字符,
这是不是也是影响了他人的阅读啊?
于是什么叫影响了他人的阅读啊?
我一直就认为影响了他人的阅读的qmd应该是那些那些清除荧屏的代码,比如*[2J或者*[K
之类的,或者是破坏系统的代码,这些ANSI版本来就禁止的。。。
这种定位的qmd根本就不能算是影响到人阅读吧
从来没有说过签名档超过了--就是违反站规啊,这个从何说起啊?
也从来没遇到过处理 任何签名档超过-- 的。。
另外你怎么知道是签名档超过--,还是我画的ANSI呢?怎么判断这个啊
比如我下面画的这个,不小心挡道了引文。。
: 真是管的太宽了 其实想想 现在还有多少人
: 这种禁令毫无用处 █  ̄ ̄█  ̄ ̄█ █
: : 私以为24小时内必须上站闻所未闻 █ █__ __█ █
: : .................(以下省略)
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soulfox (08EE|08304|08CSEY|04CSE|囧) 于 2011年12月30日22:00:54 星期五 提到:
其实我就是想问,影响到什么阅读了?
: 真是管的太宽了 其实想想 现在还有多少人会用特殊签名档的
: 这种禁令毫无用处
: : 私以为24小时内必须上站闻所未闻
: : .................(以下省略)
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Castellio (percyshelley|Right to Heresy) 于 2011年12月30日22:27:48 星期五 提到:
谁知道 我有时候手机/web看bbs的,觉得那些a引文的碍事儿多了
: 其实我就是想问,影响到什么阅读了?
: : 真是管的太宽了 其实想想 现在还有多少人会用特殊签名档的
: : 这种禁令毫无用处
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cherryfox (聆而起舞,闪而永耀|我终于ANSI毕业了) 于 2011年12月31日20:16:59 星期六 提到:
……
: 申 请 人: DixReves
: 被申请人: FFXeNoN
: 诉 由:
: 网友DixReves认为,站长FFXeNoN认定其签名档违规及相关处理不妥。
: 诉 求:
: .................(以下省略)
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qianzj (鼠标|虎踞龙蟠) 于 2012年01月02日09:41:54 星期一 提到:
赞逻辑^^
: 我是觉得用光标定位的肯定会挡到字。。。。
: 于是都可以说影响了他人的阅读啊,
: 于是光标定位也不就都应该被禁止么?
: 另外什么叫影响了他人的阅读呢。。
: 包括这次DixReves被举报的那个帖子,和所有其他使用光标qmd的,都没有,也
: 肯定不会让其qmd挡到自己写的字,而是挡到引文的一部分。。
: 如果说这个遮挡是影响了他人正常阅读帖子,ok,影响了其读那引文被遮挡的一
: 两个字。。
: 那么我想说,
: .................(以下省略)
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linzhihuan (221|0513|0534) 于 2012年01月13日21:12:12 星期五 提到:
是啊是啊,说的太对了
: 我是觉得用光标定位的肯定会挡到字。。。。
: 于是都可以说影响了他人的阅读啊,
: 于是光标定位也不就都应该被禁止么?
: 另外什么叫影响了他人的阅读呢。。
: 包括这次DixReves被举报的那个帖子,和所有其他使用光标qmd的,都没有,也
: 肯定不会让其qmd挡到自己写的字,而是挡到引文的一部分。。
: 如果说这个遮挡是影响了他人正常阅读帖子,ok,影响了其读那引文被遮挡的一
: 两个字。。
: 那么我想说,
: .................(以下省略)
Sender: Castellio percyshelley Right to Heresy, Area: ANSI
Title: [Collection][Reprint][Judgment] DixReves vs FFXeNoN
Sending site: Sun and Moon Guanghua Wednesday, March 07, 2012 14:20:15, site mail
daviddvd 0519 HiHigh group@quan daviddvd.net mentioned on Tuesday, December 27, 2011 23:18:18
Applicant DixReves
Respondent FFXeNoN
Cause of action
Netizen DixReves believes that the webmaster FFXeNoN determined that his signature file violated the regulations and related handling was inappropriate.
demands
Withdraw or reduce punishment
Relevant evidence
1. DixReves’ application for reconsideration
2. Articles related to the Complaint version
3. Articles containing the signature file published by DixReves in other discussion forums
4. The arbitration panel’s evidence collection letters will not be listed.
The above evidence is displayed in the highlights area of the Appeal edition x 10 7 60
Basis for arbitration
Fudan University Sun Moon Guanghua Electronic Bulletin Board Implementation Measures Item 4.7
6.27
Arbitration panel discussion
After reviewing relevant documents, letters and other evidence, the arbitration panel concluded that netizen Dix Reves was being prosecuted
The signature file used in the newspaper’s posts and some other posts did block the introduction part.
And it affects the normal reading of other netizens. After knowing it, the webmaster FFXeNoN asked him to modify the signature file.
FFXeNoN failed to revise the decision in time, so the penalty for banning login rights was reasonable.
Nothing inappropriate
Netizen DixReves’ use of the signature file is not malicious in itself. ANSI works used for signature files
It also has special significance. For signature documents in such cases, the arbitration panel recommends that the station committee provide the application with
Possibility of use and the corresponding scope of use and specific rules are given so that netizens can retain this information to the greatest extent.
some precious originals
ruling
Dismiss all claims of DixReves
This ruling is final and takes effect from the date of publication.
Sun Moon Guanghua BBS Arbitration Team
Enforce arbitration wf
moonbear
Sato
2011.12.26
daviddvd 0519 HiHigh group@quan daviddvd.net mentioned on Tuesday, December 27, 2011 23:18:25
sosad.
:Applicant DixReves
: Respondent FFXeNoN
: cause of action
: Netizen DixReves believes that the webmaster FFXeNoN determined that his signature file violated the regulations and related handling was inappropriate.
: demand
: ............. omitted below
qianzj mouse Hujulongpan mentioned on Tuesday, December 27, 2011 23:30:39
It is expected that the corresponding scope of use and specific rules will be given.
:Applicant DixReves
: Respondent FFXeNoN
: cause of action
: Netizen DixReves believes that the webmaster FFXeNoN determined that his signature file violated the regulations and related handling was inappropriate.
: demand
: ............. omitted below
soulox 08EE 08304 08CSEY 04CSE囧 mentioned on Tuesday, December 27, 2011 23:58:18
pity...
What does this mean?
For signature files in such cases, the arbitration panel recommends that the Station Management Committee provide the possibility of applying for use.
And give the corresponding scope of use and specific rules so that netizens can retain these to the greatest extent.
Rare and original
:Applicant DixReves
: Respondent FFXeNoN
: cause of action
: Netizen DixReves believes that the webmaster FFXeNoN determined that his signature file violated the regulations and related handling was inappropriate.
: demand
: ............. omitted below
yahou love has no words @心一@六anniversary mentioned on Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:51:32
Nothing interesting. Typical official language.
: pity...
: What does this mean?
: For signature files in such situations, the arbitration panel recommends that the Station Management Committee provide the possibility of applying for use.
: And give the corresponding scope of use and specific rules so that netizens can retain these to the greatest extent.
: precious original
: ............. omitted below
Castellio percyshelley Right to Heresy mentioned on Wednesday, December 28, 2011 13:26:11
So the special signature file has become extinct?
:Applicant DixReves
: Respondent FFXeNoN
: cause of action
: Netizen DixReves believes that the webmaster FFXeNoN determined that his signature file violated the regulations and related handling was inappropriate.
: demand
: ............. omitted below
CandyR DixReves said he thought of a good way to prove Fermat! Mentioned on Wednesday, December 28, 2011 14:35:01
It was posted and caused trouble
:Applicant DixReves
: Respondent FFXeNoN
: cause of action
: Netizen DixReves believes that the webmaster FFXeNoN determined that his signature file violated the regulations and related handling was inappropriate.
: demand
: ............. omitted below
daviddvd 0519 HiHigh group@quan daviddvd.net mentioned on Wednesday, December 28, 2011 15:16:00
pinch
: It was posted and caused trouble
: :Applicant by DixReves
: : Respondent FFXeNoN
: : Cause of action
: ............. omitted below
linzhihuan 221 0513 0534 mentioned on Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:53:14
I personally thought it was unheard of to have to log in within 24 hours.
:Applicant DixReves
: Respondent FFXeNoN
: cause of action
: Netizen DixReves believes that the webmaster FFXeNoN determined that his signature file violated the regulations and related handling was inappropriate.
: demand
: ............. omitted below
CandyR DixReves said he thought of a good way to prove Fermat! Mentioned on Friday, December 30, 2011 20:23:03
Rolling all over the floor
: pinch
: : It was posted and caused trouble
: : ............. omitted below
CandyR DixReves said he thought of a good way to prove Fermat! Mentioned on Friday, December 30, 2011 at 21:10:25
Forget it
I want to make a QMD and say this:
I have a very beautiful QMD, but unfortunately there are only 6 lines here, so I can’t write them down...
Ha ha
: I thought it was unheard of to have to log on to the site within 24 hours.
: :Applicant by DixReves
: : Respondent FFXeNoN
: : Cause of action
: ............. omitted below
Castellio percyshelley Right to Heresy mentioned on Friday, December 30, 2011 21:41:26
It’s really too broad. In fact, think about it, how many people still use special signature files now?
This ban is useless
: I personally think that it is unheard of to have to log in within 24 hours.
: :Applicant by DixReves
: : Respondent FFXeNoN
: : Cause of action
: ............. omitted below
soulox 08EE 08304 08CSEY 04CSE囧 mentioned on Friday, December 30, 2011 21:58:43
I think using the cursor to position it will definitely block the words.
So it can be said that it affects other people’s reading.
So shouldn’t all cursor positioning be banned?
In addition, what does it mean to influence other people’s reading?
Including the post where DixReves was reported this time and all other posts using cursor qmd, neither
I will definitely not let its qmd block the words I wrote, but block part of the quotation.
If this blocking affects other people’s normal reading of the post, ok, it affects their reading of the quotation that is blocked.
two words
Then I want to say
All reply posts that choose the N introduction mode affect my normal reading and should be banned.
All reply posts that select R introduction mode cut off the quotations and affect my reading. They should also be banned.
All reply posts that select the Y introduction mode only retain 2 levels of introductions, and the previous ones are not displayed, which affects my reading.
Should also be banned
In addition, I want to say that today, my qmd positioning blocked a few characters of the introduction in the original text.
Tomorrow I will not use the positioned qmd, but I will draw an ANSI pattern in the reply post and then delete it.
Several characters in the quotation are included. Does this affect other people’s reading? Should it be banned?
The day after tomorrow, I will not use positioning qmd or draw ANSI, but directly delete a few characters in the quotation.
Does this also affect other people’s reading?
So what does it mean to influence other people’s reading?
I have always thought that the qmd that affects other people's reading should be those codes that clear the screen, such as *[2J or *[K
or the like, or code that damages the system. These ANSI versions prohibit it.
This kind of positioning of qmd cannot be regarded as affecting people's reading at all.
It has never been said that if the signature file exceeds the limit, it violates the site rules. Where do we start with this?
I have never encountered any situation where the signature file exceeds
In addition, how do you know whether the signature file exceeds or the ANSI drawn by me? How do you judge this?
For example, in the picture I drew below, I accidentally blocked the quote.
: It’s really too lenient. In fact, think about how many people there are now
: Such a ban is useless
: : I personally think that it is unheard of to have to log in within 24 hours.
: : ............. omitted below
soulox 08EE 08304 08CSEY 04CSE囧 mentioned on Friday, December 30, 2011 22:00:54
Actually, I just want to ask what kind of reading is affected?
: It’s really too broad. In fact, think about how many people still use special signature files.
: Such a ban is useless
: : I personally think that it is unheard of to have to log in within 24 hours.
: : ............. omitted below
Castellio percyshelley Right to Heresy mentioned on Friday, December 30, 2011 22:27:48
Who knows? Sometimes I watch BBS on the web on my mobile phone, and I feel that those A quotations are too much in the way.
: Actually, I just want to ask what kind of reading is affected?
: : It’s really too lenient. In fact, think about how many people still use special signature files.
: : Such a ban is useless
cherryfox Listen and dance, shine and shine forever I finally graduated from ANSI mentioned on Saturday, December 31, 2011 20:16:59
:Applicant DixReves
: Respondent FFXeNoN
: cause of action
: Netizen DixReves believes that the webmaster FFXeNoN determined that his signature file violated the regulations and related handling was inappropriate.
: demand
: ............. omitted below
qianzj mouse Hujulongpan mentioned on Monday, January 02, 2012 09:41:54
Like logic^^
: I think using the cursor to position it will definitely block the words.
: So it can be said that it affects other people’s reading.
: So shouldn’t all cursor positioning be banned?
: What else does it mean to influence other people’s reading?
: Including the post where DixReves was reported this time and all other posts using the cursor qmd, neither.
: I will definitely not let its qmd block the words I wrote, but block part of the quotation.
: If this blocking affects other people’s normal reading of the post, ok it affects their reading of the quotation that is blocked.
: two words
: Then I want to say
: ............. omitted below
linzhihuan 221 0513 0534 mentioned on Friday, January 13, 2012 21:12:12
Yes, yes, you are so right
: I think using the cursor to position it will definitely block the words.
: So it can be said that it affects other people’s reading.
: So shouldn’t all cursor positioning be banned?
: What else does it mean to influence other people’s reading?
: Including the post where DixReves was reported this time and all other posts using the cursor qmd, neither.
: I will definitely not let its qmd block the words I wrote, but block part of the quotation.
: If this blocking affects other people’s normal reading of the post, ok it affects their reading of the quotation that is blocked.
: two words
: Then I want to say
: ............. omitted below