发信人: Castellio (percyshelley|Right to Heresy), 信区: ANSI
标 题: 八、一径入云斜:《假日梦想》
发信站: 日月光华 (2011年03月27日21:33:14 星期天), 站内信件
发现评论写到现在,越发返璞归真了——谈论技法不多,谈论其他的(例如感想
、想法、八卦)篇幅更多了。本来么,ansi和其他艺术一样,很大程度上和技法
没关系,都是个人娱乐自己、表达心声的方式。到了一定程度,起作用的就是审
美、创意而非其他了。
下面介绍的这位画手——北大未名的haoyuan,在技法上已经炉火纯青了。正如茄
殿/onlyone评价的那样:
而圆殿的一个问题是(咳咳....都在等我做坏人了对吧)通常入行一段时间的朋友们
常见的毛病:瓶颈期,具体表现就是作品更多的呈现出匠气而不是灵气,字符运用
更娴熟了但是带来的观感反而减弱了。
唉,我也是深有体会,虽然我自己技法相当一般,但我每时每刻都有瓶颈的感觉
(就是从没进步过)。不过就圆殿来说,突破瓶颈有不少得天独厚的条件。
圆殿我是见过真人的,不太好评价哇。不过圆殿给我的感觉,是做人做事相当中
规中矩的。说来这牵涉一个八卦。北大未名不像水木、光华那么错综复杂,画手
有个很明显的传承小圈子。简单画一下:
gegewu(虽然被认作师傅,但对后来的技法影响有限)
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justify onlyone(虽然没有直接收徒,但对后来者影响很深)
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haoyuan Lylian downye
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Matsuda
这个小圈子的活动中心,除了各自的空间之外,应该就是未名的美工版面了@@
有点扯远了,因为以美工内部版为主要的活动中心,加上其他原因,未名的美工
制作团队特别发达,haoyuan更是有看板一霸的美誉(呃我现评的)。有意思的
是,圆殿/haoyuan的后期作品,无一例外几乎都是职务作品(各种看板进版)。
有意思的是,这种职务作品,要是一般的画手早就腻了(俺就是),题材受限制,
画来画去都是重复前人的东东,还有交稿期限,真是要多无聊有多无聊。但圆殿
不但乐此不疲(真心称赞!),而且每每有让人青眼的佳作,不能不让人啧啧赞
叹。
这和圆殿的画风是一致的,那就是:中规中矩的构图方式和配色,但加上富有新
意的细节技法和想法,这就完全不一样了。
我觉得,这也正是圆殿后期取得突破的关键。
譬如看这幅今天推荐的画作,同样是未名进站画面的《假日梦想》
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如果这幅作品,只有那个小房子和树,那只能算一般的上乘之作,但房子坐落在
云朵上的奇思(不知道是否有参考图),就够得上一幅佳作;而用大大小小的泡
泡来画虚化了的树叶,那就让人拍案叫绝了!
对我等资质平庸的画手来说,一般就能画画有实质形态的东西,要做到有想法有
创意,真是何其难哉。但对于有想法的话手来说,平日里司空见惯的东西,加上
一些动人的细节,就有“文章本天成、妙手偶得之”的感觉了。
本图中的泡泡,很容易让人想到soulfox的《小狐狸 smd》,同样是一只可爱的
小狐狸,但生活在泡泡里,就多了一分幻想,space
发信人: soulfox (没有灵感,混混沌沌), 信区: ANSI
标 题: 新smd
发信站: 日月光华 (2007年12月26日20:58:00 星期三), 站内信件
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soulfox自己也说:
漂浮在看似繁华,丰满和喧嚣的包围中,
充满幻想,童趣和神秘的氛围,
却隐含虚无,飘渺和轻浮
在这种明知是虚无的环境下,仍然自由的驰骋与翱翔,
这是多么的享受和慵懒啊。
虽然我们都要面对喧嚣的现实,但我们心中都有个纯真的童话世界。所以这样的
画,能让我们如此共鸣。但只是可惜我们表现能力不够,或者不愿意显露出来,
所以没有这样精彩的妙笔啊。
另外补充一点,关于树叶的画法,其实也有固定的套路,譬如Kieslowski、chive
等画手的作品,他们的树是很简约和写实的。
请按space,欣赏Kieslowski的《洛神指潜渊为期》:
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但对比haoyuan的图,我自己更喜欢那种虚化的处理方式(众:题材不同,无法对
比)。树叶嘛,写意一点就好,其余的,就由读者自己去联想。不剥夺读者的想
象力,这才是真正的高手(当然司机也是高手中的高手。。。)
例如下面这幅,JuliaFrank的《大树》,写意的树叶也是别具一格,同样轰动一
时:
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这篇东西没写多少字,却要结束了。但我也觉得,再多的语言也是贫乏的。记得
在电影《死亡诗社》中有这样一段:
《诗歌鉴赏”》作者J· 埃文斯·普里查特博士。要完全理解诗歌,我们首先
必须了解它的格调、韵律和修辞手法,然后提两个问题:第一,诗歌的主题是
如何艺术地实现的;第二,该主题的重要性是什么。…如果把诗歌艺术性的得
分画在图表的横轴上,把它的重要性记在竖轴上,计算一下它所覆盖的面积,
也就得出了它的优劣。拜伦的十四行诗可能在竖轴上得分很高,但横向得分一
般。而莎士比亚的十四行诗,可能在横向和竖向上都得分很高。阅读本书的诗
歌时,请练习这种分析方法。随着你用这种方法评价诗歌的能力不断提高,对
诗歌的鉴赏和理解能力也会日益提高。
屁话!这就是我对J埃文斯·普里查特先生的评价。我们不是在安水管,我们是
在谈论诗歌。…现在我要你们把那一页撕了。撕吧,把整页都撕了。没听见吗?
是的,不好意思,撕了我之前的那些乱七八糟的技法评论,玩ANSI,我们更需要的
是想法,是童趣,是热情,而不是狗屁不通的什么技法。司机说过,“玩ANSI的都
是一群童心未泯的家伙”。趁各种规则还没把我们束缚,趁我们还没成为一名ANSI
匠人,忘了那些方法,享受快乐吧。
最后附上haoyuan其他一些富有创意的作品,其中《翅膀》是我最喜欢的。
1、《缤纷未名》进站,space
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btw 从这篇开始,多讲感受,少讲技法,以上。
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Sender: Castellio percyshelley Right to Heresy, Area: ANSI
Title: 8 A Path into the Clouds Holiday Dream
Sending site: Sun and Moon Guanghua March 27, 2011 21:33:14 Sunday, site mail
I find that now that I have written my comments, I have returned to my original nature more and more. I don’t talk much about techniques, but talk about other things such as my thoughts.
Thoughts, gossip, and more space. Originally, ansi is like other arts. To a large extent, it has to do with technique.
It doesn't matter, it's all a way for individuals to entertain themselves and express their feelings. When it reaches a certain level, what matters is judgment.
Beauty is creativity and nothing else
The painter introduced below, Haoyuan, who is not famous in Peking University, has become very proficient in his technique.
As only one commented
And one of the problems with Yuandian is, ahem... They are all waiting for me to be a bad guy, right? Usually friends who have been in the industry for a while
Common faults: bottleneck period. The specific manifestation is that the work shows more craftsmanship rather than aura. The use of characters
I am more proficient, but the impression I bring is weakened.
Alas, I also have a deep understanding. Although my own skills are quite average, I feel like I have a bottleneck all the time.
I just never made any progress. But as far as Yuandian is concerned, there are many unique conditions for breaking through the bottleneck.
I have met Yuandian in real life, and I can’t comment very well on it. However, Yuandian gives me the feeling that he is quite average in his conduct and work.
It's fair to say that this involves a gossip. Peking University Weiming is not as intricate as Shuimu Guanghua.
There is a very obvious small circle of inheritance. Let’s just draw it.
Although gegewu was recognized as a master, his influence on subsequent techniques was limited.
justify onlyone Although he did not directly recruit disciples, he had a profound influence on those who came after him.
haoyuan Lylian downye
Matsuda
The activity center of this small circle, apart from their respective spaces, should be Weiming’s art page@@
It's a bit far-fetched, because the internal version of the artist is the main center of activity, and for other reasons, Weiming's artist
The production team is very developed. Haoyuan has the reputation of being the best in the billboard. Well, I am commenting on it now. It’s interesting.
It is Yuandian Haoyuan's later works. Without exception, almost all of them are professional works. Various billboards have been published.
What’s interesting is that if an ordinary painter would have been bored with this kind of job work, I would have had a limited subject matter.
Drawing and drawing is just repeating the things of the predecessors. There is also a deadline for submission. It is really boring and boring. But Yuandian
Not only do they enjoy it and sincerely praise it, but there are always masterpieces that make people admire them, and they can’t help but admire them.
sigh
This is consistent with the painting style of Yuandian, that is, the composition and color matching are quite satisfactory, but with a touch of novelty.
The meticulous details, techniques and ideas are completely different.
I think this is the key to Yuandian’s later breakthrough.
For example, look at the painting recommended today, which is also a picture of Weiming’s arrival at Holiday Dreams.
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If this work only had the small house and the tree, it would only be considered an average work of excellence. But the house is located in
The strange thoughts on the clouds. I don’t know if there is a reference picture. It is enough to make a masterpiece. But with large and small bubbles
Pao Lai paints blurred leaves, which will make people marvel.
For painters like me with mediocre qualifications, we can generally draw things with substantial form. We need to have ideas and
Creativity is really difficult, but for those who have ideas, it is a common thing in daily life.
Some touching details have the feeling that the article was born naturally and was accidentally obtained by a clever hand.
The bubbles in this picture are very reminiscent of soulfox. The little fox smd is also a cute one.
Little fox, but living in a bubble is a bit more fantasy space
Sender: soulfox no inspiration chaotic chaos, message area: ANSI
Title: new smd
Sending site: Sun and Moon Guanghua December 26, 2007 20:58:00 Wednesday, site mail
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Floating in the seemingly prosperous, full and noisy surroundings
Full of fantasy, childlike and mysterious atmosphere
But it implies nothingness, ethereality and frivolity
In this environment where we know it is nothingness, we are still galloping and flying freely.
How enjoyable and lazy this is
Although we all have to face the noisy reality, we all have an innocent fairy tale world in our hearts. So like this
Painting can resonate with us so much, but it is a pity that we are not capable of expressing ourselves or are unwilling to show it.
So there is no such wonderful writing
Another point to add is that there are actually fixed methods for painting leaves, such as Kieslowski chive.
Waiting for the artist's works. Their trees are very simple and realistic.
Please press space to enjoy Kieslowski's "Luoshen refers to the abyss for a period of time"
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But compared to Haoyuan's pictures, I prefer the blurred treatment method. The subjects are different and I can't compare them.
Compared with leaves, just be more freehand and leave the rest to the readers to make their own associations without depriving the readers of their imagination.
Xiang Li, this is the real master. Of course, the driver is also the master among masters.
For example, in the picture below of Julia Frank's big tree, the freehand leaves are also unique and sensational.
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This article has not written many words, but it is coming to an end. But I also feel that no matter how many words are used, it will be poor. Remember
There is this scene in the movie Dead Poets Society
Poetry Appreciation Author J Evans Dr. Pritchart To fully understand poetry we first
You must understand its style, rhythm and rhetorical techniques, and then ask two questions. First, what is the theme of the poem?
How to achieve it artistically? Secondly, what is the importance of this theme? If poetry can be realized artistically,
Plot it on the horizontal axis of the chart. Write its importance on the vertical axis. Calculate the area it covers.
This leads to its merits and demerits. Byron's sonnets may score high on the vertical axis, but score one on the horizontal axis.
While Shakespeare's sonnets may score high both horizontally and vertically, read the poems in this book
Practice this method of analysis as you sing. As your ability to evaluate poetry in this way improves,
The ability to appreciate and understand poetry will also improve day by day.
Bullshit, that's what I say about Mr. J. Evans, Mr. Pritchart, we're not putting in pipes, we're
We're talking about poetry. Now I want you to tear up that page. Tear it up. Tear the whole page. Don't you hear me?
Yes, I'm sorry for tearing up my previous messy technical comments. We need more to play ANSI.
It's an idea, it's childishness, it's enthusiasm, not some nonsense technique. The driver said that everyone who plays ANSI
We are a group of guys who are still young at heart, before all the rules constrain us, before we become ANSI.
Craftsman, forget the methods and have fun
Finally, here are some other creative works by Haoyuan, among which Wings is my favorite.
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