Sender: flubber hopping vault horse, message area: ASCIIArt Title: Re: trumpet by flubber@zixia Sending station: BBS Westward Journey Station Sun Jul 7 20:32:48 2002 There are photos found on google http: www.sitting ducks.com jeff sachs trumpet.gif The metallic luster is something I have accumulated experience from when I was making images in the past. Aren’t you a computer major? If you have been exposed to some computer graphics, 3D texture mapping, etc. You will have some rational understanding of texture. Also, observe life I really looked at the big metal pillars in the shopping mall for a long time, haha