发信人: zeppeli (zeppeli), 信区: ANSI_Train02
标 题: Re: 十、忘机过此生:《张望 smd》
发信站: 日月光华 (2011年03月28日11:36:22 星期一), 站内信件
我说的是拿这个当饭吃是不现实的,针对的是有人想做职业化的想法,
这个是艺术,是消遣,可以欣赏,但也止于欣赏。
艺术都是一种玩,关键是有没有观众听众,或者说受众。
诗词曲赋这些有人欣赏,就是艺术,就是这样。
asciiart当然是艺术,因为有人欣赏。
而且本身这词就有个art在里面。。
但是asciiart欣赏的人少,所以成不了主流。
(其实从人数上来说,asciiart才是阳春白雪,画画什么的是下里巴人才对)
写生油画逼真度不如摄影,但它有群众基础,有观众群,接受的人多,所以很艺术。
诗词歌赋,不过是文字游戏,书法不过是字的写法,这些能传下来
就是因为有群众基础,一直有人在玩这个东西,有人欣赏它,所以它有价值。
asciiart做好了,能让人拍案叫绝,甚至也许能流传后世,
但也做不到像名画那样的效果,
要达到类似向日葵,神奈川冲浪图这样的效果,我觉得是不可能的。
它只能被小众中的小众欣赏,影响力低微。
有人的画可以拿来拍卖,但不会有人拿asciiart来拍卖。
有人的诗能救自己的命,但不会有人拿asciiart作为生死判据。
你觉得未来这种情况会变吗?
说得可能很俗,艺术价值当然不能直接拿钱来判定。
但这也是一方面。
(果然男人没有房就是不行吗)
【 在 Castellio (percyshelley|Right to Heresy) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不过话说回来 很多艺术 说穿了就是玩 把他们束之高阁搞得神圣的
: 不得了,其实也没什么
: 所谓古诗词,无非也就是有一套规则的文字游戏么。有人文字组织的
: 好,有人想法奇妙,就成了经典之作。这都是共通的。
: 从这个层面上说,asciiart是艺术未尝不可。别看不起这种似乎下里
: 巴人胡闹的东西。今天的下里巴人,多少年以后如果文人艺术家改造
: 过了,就成了阳春白雪了。
: 另外,说asciiart有限制比不上画画,这也比较片面。那有了摄影,
: 是不是写生的油画图就没有存在价值了?相片永远也没有画画的感觉
: .................(以下省略)
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※ 修改:·zeppeli 于 2011年03月28日11:38:37·[FROM: 159.226.25.*]
Sender: zeppeli zeppeli , Area: ANSI Train02
Title: Re: Ten forgetful moments in this life Zhangwang smd
Sending site: Sun and Moon Guanghua Monday, March 28, 2011 11:36:22, site mail
What I'm saying is that it's unrealistic to make a living out of this. It's aimed at some people who want to become professional.
This is art and entertainment. You can appreciate it, but it doesn’t stop there.
Art is a kind of play. The key is whether there is an audience or an audience.
Poems, lyrics, music, and poems that some people appreciate are art. That's it.
asciiart is of course art because some people appreciate it
And the word itself has art in it.
But few people appreciate asciiart, so it cannot become mainstream.
In fact, in terms of the number of people, Asciiart is the most talented person, while painting and other things are just for lower level people.
Oil painting from life is not as realistic as photography, but it has a mass base, an audience, and many people accept it, so it is very artistic.
Poems, songs, and poems are just word games, and calligraphy is just the way words are written. These can be passed down.
Just because there is a mass base, there are people who have been playing with this thing and some people appreciate it, so it has value.
Once asciiart is done, it will wow people and maybe even be passed down to future generations.
But it can’t achieve the same effect as famous paintings.
I think it is impossible to achieve an effect similar to the sunflower and Kanagawa surfing pictures.
It can only be appreciated by a niche within a niche and has low influence.
Some people's paintings can be auctioned, but no one can auction them with asciiart.
Some people's poems can save their lives, but no one will use asciiart as the criterion of life and death.
Do you think this situation will change in the future?
It may sound vulgar, but of course artistic value cannot be judged directly by money.
But this is also one aspect
Sure enough, it’s not okay if a man doesn’t have a house?
In Castellio percyshelley Right to Heresy's masterpiece:
: But then again, a lot of art is just for fun to put it bluntly. It’s sacred to put them on the shelf.
: It’s incredible. It’s actually nothing.
: The so-called ancient poetry is nothing more than a word game with a set of rules. It was organized by someone.
: Well, someone had a wonderful idea and it became a classic. This is all in common.
: From this perspective, it’s okay to say that asciiart is art. Don’t look down on this kind of superficiality.
: What the Ba people are doing is nonsense. How many years from now will the lower Li Ba people of today be transformed by literati and artists?
: After that, it will be like spring and snow.
: In addition, it is also one-sided to say that asciiart has limitations and is not as good as painting. Then there is photography.
: Is it because oil paintings drawn from life have no value in existence? Photos will never have the feeling of paintings.
: ............. omitted below
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Modification: zeppeli on March 28, 2011 11:38:37 [FROM: 159.226.25.*]