发信人: starmoonh (F h )
标 题: Re: 我来写写昨晚与sohu讨论关于zixia字库的事2
发信站: 水木社区 (Sat Aug 19 14:35:03 2006), 站内
【 在 freshtime (胖猫传说三:阿球归来) 的大作中提到: 】
: 下面写写我的意见:
: 1.在听取他们的意见之后
: 我还是很赞成修改的
: 在使用过程中,的确会发现zixia字库中存在的风格不统一等问题
: 但是我们普通asciier要么自己修改,
: 要么就直接用了。反正要求也不高,只用几个字也无所谓
: 如果要整体修改,非flubber首肯不可
: 这个字库当初是flubber牵头制作的,他也对字体进行过一些修改,但是进度非常的慢
: 这件事,flubber改没有问题,大家觉得这也是理所当然的
: 但是别人来改,大家就会提出质疑,所以要改必须先得到flubber的同意
不是说flubber的威信要迫使大家接受或者怎样,
因为他是紫霞字库创作的组织策划者,我们当年写字的这些人都是接受他的修改的,
但是可能不是所有作者都接受被flubber以外的其他人修改,
因此任何对zixia字库作为一个整体的修改都要经过flubber同意
这件事倒是基本与未参加写字的人无关,
: 2.修改的过程是一个商业运作的过程
: (如果flubber同意sohu修改的话)
: sohu公司会提供给修改者一定的商业报酬(具体的大家可以看协议)
: 他们希望大概有5个人来做,不希望人太多,这样子在风格统一上比较好做
: 那么到底谁来改?谁来负责?
: 我的意见:这还是非flubber不可。至少他本人不出面,他也要授权给某一个人,主持修
改工作才行。
flubber估计没有亲力亲为的时间和精力,如果他同意修改,那么需要获得他授权给一些人
: 另外一个问题,修改的人可以获得报酬,那么原作者呢?
: 他们是否有向sohu索取报酬的权力?
这个东西不太好说。原作者当时创作zixia字库就是同意了允许网友在互联网上使用,sohu
既然说他们拿去给网友使用是免费的,也就是说他们没有用紫霞字库赚钱(当然如果紫霞字
库在sohu的论坛上获得成功的话,他们至少吸引了用户,也就是说起到了宣传作用),这样
的话他们的使用就完全没有问题,原作者没有向sohu索取报酬的依据。
: 目前是这样子的:
: 一方面,我和星月让他们现在就zixia字库开展工作,版权上注明zixia字库。通过链接列
出各位作者id
: 另一方面,我们通过多种方式试图联系flubber,并看看能不能联系其他作者。也请大家
就这一问题发表看法。
re,希望大家都发表一下看法
毕竟这可以说是asciiart和商业web网站合作的第一宗比较大的事,相信以后还会有越来越
多的合作机会。我们虽然不能在第一步就做的尽善尽美,但是也要尽量清楚明白,让以后的
人有所参考。
Sender: starmoonh F h
Title: Re: Let me write about the discussion with sohu last night about the zixia font 2
Sending site: Shuimu Community Sat Aug 19 14:35:03 2006 , within the site
Mentioned in the masterpiece of freshtime Fat Cat Legend 3: The Return of Ah Qiu:
:Write my opinion below
: 1. After listening to their opinions
: I still agree with the modification.
: During the use process, you will indeed find problems such as inconsistent styles in the zixia font library.
: But we ordinary asciers have to modify it ourselves.
: Or just use it directly. The requirements are not high anyway. It doesn’t matter if you only use a few words.
: If you want to make an overall modification, Flubber has to give permission.
: This font library was originally produced by flubber. He also made some modifications to the fonts, but the progress was very slow.
: There is no problem in changing this matter to flubber. Everyone thinks this is natural.
: But if someone else changes it, everyone will question it, so before you want to change it, you must first get Flubber’s consent.
It’s not that flubber’s prestige forces everyone to accept it or anything like that.
Because he was the organizer and planner of the creation of the Zixia font library. Those of us who wrote in those days all accepted his modifications.
However, not all authors may accept modifications by others other than flubber.
Therefore, any modification to the Zixia font library as a whole must be approved by Flubber
This matter basically has nothing to do with people who did not participate in writing.
: 2. The modification process is a commercial operation process
: If flubber agrees to sohu's modification
: sohu company will provide certain commercial remuneration to the modifier. For details, you can read the agreement.
: They hope that there will be about 5 people to do it. They don’t want too many people. This way it will be easier to do in terms of unified style.
: So who will make the changes and who will be responsible?
: My opinion is that Flubber still has to do this. At least he won’t show up personally, and he has to authorize someone to preside over the repair.
Just change your job
Flubber probably doesn't have the time and energy to do it himself. If he agrees to the modification, he needs to authorize it to some people.
: Another question: the person who makes the modifications can get paid, but what about the original author?
: Do they have the right to demand payment from sohu?
This thing is hard to explain. When the original author created the zixia font, he agreed to allow netizens to use it on the Internet sohu
Since it is said that it is free for netizens to use, it means that they have not made money using the Zixia font library. Of course, if the Zixia font
If the library is successful on the sohu forum, they will at least attract users, which means it will have a publicity effect.
If so, there is no problem with their use. The original author has no basis for asking sohu for compensation.
: This is what it looks like now
: On the one hand, Xingyue and I asked them to start working on the zixia font now. The copyright of the zixia font should be noted through the link list.
Get each author’s ID
: On the other hand, we are trying to contact flubber through various methods and see if we can contact other authors. Please also
express your opinion on this issue
re I hope everyone can express their opinions
After all, this can be said to be the first major cooperation between asciiart and a commercial web website. I believe there will be more and more cases in the future.
There are many opportunities for cooperation. Although we cannot do it perfectly in the first step, we must try to be clear and understand it so that we can make it clear in the future.
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