发信人: cclu (西西·归来), 信区: ANSI
标 题: Re: 帮忙评价一下这个事件
发信站: 日月光华 (2005年08月22日09:59:38 星期一), 站内信件
我来说几句 :)
因为你是新手 我特别多说几句
我就是新水木的creambottle 那面的asciiart斑竹 这是我的老id
当时的事件大概我比较清楚
原来进版是aqua@蓝色星空的 他在新水木的id是cloudwing
他自己看见Hejie版面用了他的作品 就是那副3个人的超女的
当时这个画面在新水木SuperGirl版面用是授权过的
asciiart是有版权的 挪用到其他版面当备忘录是需要作者授权的
而Hejie版面的斑竹并没有这么做
而且在cloudwing提出抗议表明了是作者身份之后
他没有向我们求证 而是直接对作者说 在说就封 而且后来也确实封了14天
这时候cloudwing才有点生气了 本来事情早点请求授权是不会这样的:P
之后我被授权去Hejie版面调解这件事情 并正式的以asciiart斑竹身份发文
最后和Hejie版面的斑竹协调了之后 换掉了备忘录
但是之后换过两版备忘录 我都看出来有侵权 我也都有和Hejie版面斑竹说
之后他也说了可能会去新水木的asciistudio征集一个备忘录
基本这就是事情经过 我对你的copy和修改侵权就不多说了
看你也是asciiart新手 建议回到新水木asciiart去看文摘区
我写的 ascii侵权周刊 都看完你就明白了:))
至于很诡异 你为什么来这里的asciiart版面说 而不是新水木的?
是觉得我们新水木asciiart版面没处理好这次的事情?欺负你们了?呵呵
我本来一直试图是把此件事情大而化小的
因为这件事情从开始到现在 认真的说 并不是在给Hejie版面添光彩
你们身为Hejie的fans 不添光彩甚至摸黑的事情显然都是不愿意的
那么还是认真的对待这件事情吧
当然我现在也还是欢迎你们去asciistudio征集备忘录的
但还是希望是尽快 因为如果你们一再侵权ascii下去
我是有点怀疑 我们的asciier画手会不会给你们做征集了 :))
asciiart的事情一般都能温和化的解决
但侵权对于一个爱护ascii的人来说是原则性问题 所以希望你们能认真对待
【 在 MichaelLiang (blkf@fuckass.org) 的大作中提到: 】
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※ 来源:·日月光华 bbs.fudan.edu.cn·[FROM: bbs.sjtu.edu.cn]
Sender: cclu Xixi returns, message area: ANSI
Title: Re: Help evaluate this event
Sending site: Sun and Moon Guanghua August 22, 2005 09:59:38 Monday, site mail
Let me say a few words:
Because you are a newbie, I would like to say a few more words.
I'm the asciiart mosaic from Xin Shuimu's creambottle. This is my old ID.
I probably know the events at that time relatively well.
It turns out that the imported version is from aqua@bluestarry sky. His ID in Xinshuimu is cloudwing.
He himself saw that his work was used on the Hejie page, and it was the three-person Supergirl one.
At that time, this picture was authorized for use in the new Mizuki SuperGirl layout.
asciiart is copyrighted. Appropriating it to other pages as memos requires the author's authorization.
Bamboo on the Hejie page did not do this.
And after cloudwing protested and revealed the identity of the author,
He did not ask us for confirmation, but directly told the author to ban him as soon as he said so, and he did ban him for 14 days later.
At this time, cloudwing became a little angry. Originally, things would not have been like this if I requested authorization earlier :P
After that, I was authorized to go to the Hejie forum to mediate the matter and officially posted as asciiart Bamboo.
Finally, after coordinating with Mozhu from the Hejie page, I changed the memo.
But after changing two versions of the memo, I saw that there was infringement and I also told Hejie’s editor.
Later, he also said that he might go to Asciistudio in Xinshuimu to collect a memorandum.
This is basically what happened. I won’t say more about your copying and modification infringement.
Seeing that you are also new to asciiart, I suggest you go back to Xinshuimu asciiart to read the abstract section.
After reading the ASCII Infringement Weekly I wrote, you will understand:
As for the weirdness, why did you come here to the asciiart page and not to the new Mizuki page?
I feel that our new Mizuki asciiart page did not handle this matter well and bullied you, haha
I have been trying to make this matter bigger and smaller.
Because from the beginning to now, seriously speaking, this matter is not adding luster to Hejie’s page.
As Hejie fans, you obviously don’t want to do things that don’t add glory or even make things dark.
So let's take this matter seriously.
Of course, I still welcome you to go to asciistudio to collect memos.
But I still hope it will be as soon as possible, because if you continue to infringe ascii, it will continue
I'm a little doubtful whether our asciier painters will solicit collections for you:
Asciiart's problems can usually be solved in a gentle manner
But infringement is a matter of principle for a person who loves ASCII, so I hope you can take it seriously.
In the great work of MichaelLiang blkf@fuckass.org mentioned:
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Source: Sun and Moon Guanghua bbs.fudan.edu.cn [FROM: bbs.sjtu.edu.cn]