Sender: flubber hopping vault, message area: ascii club Title: Re: Several trainings I saw Sending station: BBS Westward Journey Station Thu Dec 4 12:25:49 2003, forwarded A master embryo You can understand basic things by observing them on your own. Like starmoonh back then, etc. Now my concept has changed Tutorial outlines written before may not be suitable for training The training is mainly aimed at making signature files and entering the version screen. These are practical things Things like composition and color require training and have little effect. If nothing else, these emotional things are difficult to express in words. Due to the huge differences, even Van Gogh and others may not be able to explain why. Mentioned in monicaclover's masterpiece: : I agree very much. There are no trained masters.